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My autotocker has a leak, in the three way, i sent it back and it came back exactly the same way with a leak, so another technition said its a burst o ring in the 3 way, problem is, how the hell do i dissasemble the 3 way? and where do i get such a tiny o ring from? Thanks.
You can get the o-ring out of a WGP cocker spares kit. However, since you don't know how to srip and repair it, I'd send it to Belsales or Planet for them to fix it.
well i sent it to fat bobs but they couldnt fix it, and that cost me £20 to send it, and i simplay cant afford to send it again so i need to do it my self, im running it on air as from christmas now anyways, where do i get a spares kit from? and does anyone know how do take it apart? is there like a manual i could buy which i could learn from?????
Download the manual from www.armyoforr.com
A spares kit is available from most paintball shops for about £15 £20 for the o-rings kit.
Check alos that is doesn't just need the length adjusting. Some 3 ways will leak in the middle Ie the seal fine at the 2 valve positions, but they leak a little in between.
Dark Warrior
13-11-2003, 06:38
Just send it to Planet, because if they cannot fix it you will need a new 3 way
It cost you £20 to send a 3-way to Fat Bobs? Did you send it with £1000000 insurance?!
I'm assuming he sent the whole marker :D
I know, but I don't understand why if it's just the 3 way that leaks. Anyway, Artwood, have you checked the 3-way actuation rod length?
ok woah woah woah now, i sent the whole marker to fat bobs as i didnt know what was wrong with it at all, they sent it back saying nothing was wrong but the leak was still there when i got it back, then andy said that the o ring in the 3 way must have burst because i use liquid c02, so i now need to get the 3 way off, to fix it, but, i have no idea how, i looked on planet to see the manuals but couldnt find the right one, the the manual with the gun was a usless as a wet paper towel. and i shouldnt need a new three way because the gun has been used twice and its brand new! But i cant get an exchange as the warranty doesnt cover o rings, so all i need is one o-ring, and someone to tell me how to fix it, as im not paying yet more moeny justfor someone to put an o ring on the 3 way and charge me £70 for it.
i havnt checked the length now, as i dont know what it is, i shouldnt have to check the length, as the gun should have worked in the first place, i havnt touched anything on the gun apart from the velocity adjuster, and the reason why i always do that is because it keeps going down, becqause of the leak! i wanna cry now, lol
Ok, a leak in your 3 way should not in any way affect the velocity, unless the leak in insanely serious (ie, it empties the co2 tank in seconds) Since I'm assuming the leak is not that serious, it can't affect your velocity. Does it leak all the time, eg when the trigger is pulled all the way back and all the way forward? Where does it leak from - the front of the 3 way, the back or from the hose nipples?
Can you get us some digital photos of the 3 way, preferably the most close up and clear shots you can get, preferably from several angles, especially looking at the front and back ends (you will need to take the 3-way off the gun to do this, which might also involve taking the lpr off the front too.
I have stripped and cleaned a couple of 3 ways in the past, however without seeing yours I have no way of knowing exactly how it works. Do you have a decent tool kit? It is likely that the plunger in the 3-way is retained at either both ends or at one end with an internal circlip, which will need to be removed to get the plunger out. The plunger is what has the o-rings on it.
When you get the plunger out, check the orings for damage and also check the inside of the 3-way body for bits of ptfe tape or other dirt or crap that may be causing the leak. You can use a cotton bud soaked with a bit of degreaser (eg WD40) to give the inside of the 3-way a good clean out. Once the thing is cleaned and fixed, put a bit of oil on the plunger o-rings before re assembling it.
Hope that give you an idea of how to start, let us know how you get on and ge tthose pics if you need more help.
Regards,
Tom
Hold on, have a thought :)
Is the 3 way not leaking because of the 3 way actuating rod (the bit that runs into the 3 way and then into your trigger) :)
The 3 way on most cockers leaks if this has a bit of side to side play.
To test this do the following.
1. Gas the marker up.
2. see if it is leaking.
3. If/when it starts to leak press the actuating rod against the side ofthe cockers body and see if it stops.
This is caused because the rod has to be straight when entering the 3 way, and if it is not the o-rings do not seal correctly. This is a cocker problem in general, and the only way to have the problem resolved is to have the ASA drilled and tapped with a small screw to hold it straight (as Eclipse and Belsales have done), or to place a small o-ring to hold it straingt on the end of the actuating rod sticking out the trigger frame :)
Another thing to try is to put some oil (angel oil or something) in the end of the 3 way, just a couple of drops while holding the trigger down, and then just pull the trigger a few times to get it worked in.
Hope thats of some help.
Dave
Another good way to get oil into your 3 way is to put the oil into the supply tube (ie the lp tube that runs from the lp reg into the middle nipple on the 3 way). Then when you gas it up the oil gets distributed into the 3 way and into your ram too. Dripping it onto the end doesnt work as well because the end is an exhaust port and so tends to blow most of the oil back out when pressurised. Not a criticism, just a point of note :)
Certainly I agree about the side to side slop causing leaks in 3-ways. Thanks for mentioning it L1f3.
actualy that side to side thing sounds like the problem someone told me when i was at starwars, i'll try that,sounds better than trying to take the 3 way apart. Thanks for helping me guys, i feel like such a pain complaining all the time, maybe i wasnt ready for a cocker, ah well, too late, lol
Thanks anyways though, you lot really are great, tom, where you from btw?
If it turns out to be side to side slop (was on my STO cocker) causing it. Either:
a) get a small o-ring and press it over the end of the rod that pushes through the trigger frame, this holds it in place and stops the side to side movement.
b) Send it to Planet. Jack charged me £10 to put a hole in the ASA and taper a screw into it like seen on the Evos or Eclipse cockers :)
Dave
Yup, from what you say, it certainly sounds what l1f3 has said. I'm originally from Poole in Dorset, but I'm currently in my final year at York Uni and running the club there. Y?
I was going to pop it up to u to see if u could look at it for me but york aint really walking distance for me, and since the back operation, im walking like a drunk man so not much hope there, lol
Dark Warrior
13-11-2003, 23:39
Originally posted by Artwood
I was going to pop it up to u to see if u could look at it for me but york aint really walking distance for me, and since the back operation, im walking like a drunk man so not much hope there, lol
Planet is on the way so why not call in there
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