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Geekeboy
19-11-2007, 13:37
Hi again all
Have recently seen this 20 inch barrel
The J&J Ceramic barrel is an excellent choice for upgrading the sniping performance of your paintball marker.
Features:
* Made from 6061 T6 aluminum then CNC machined to the highest quality standards in the industry Ceramic coating and teflon impregnation reduced the friction rate to a minimum, while inducing a self cleaning method.
*This means that if you break paint in the middle of a game, you can shoot right through it without even using a squeegee!
I thought that this is contrary to popular belief that this length would just cause friction?
Lets discuss
Many thanks
G
only buy a 20" if your compensating for something :P what are you going to put it on?
Geekeboy
19-11-2007, 15:37
Smart parts Ion
Or what would you suggest, within reasonable price
G
what benefit would there be either way?
Smart parts Ion
Or what would you suggest, within reasonable price
G
What are you asking, what gun or what barrel within a reasonable price?
Geekeboy
19-11-2007, 16:30
Am soon to get an Ion
and wanted to increase range, saw the 20 inch barrel
Any suggestions on a different reasonably price marker.
How is Balldawg? in MK myself! (to melty)
Most people wouldn't go for such a long barrel because once a barrel goes over 16" it just gets in the way unless you plan to be really boring and sit at the back being a sniper.
range cannot be increased unless you increase the velocity - but there is a limit on that so it cant be increased. supposedly it makes it slightly more accurate - but dont believe everything you are told!
anything over 16 inch's reduces efficiency. if i were you i would either get a 14 or a 16 inch
Lambchop
19-11-2007, 19:07
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.....
Geekeboy
19-11-2007, 22:39
Ok then,
Thanks guys
Stick with 16"
Just a tail end, is there much difference of accuracy between the 14 an 16 inch?
seany boy
20-11-2007, 08:41
Accuracy all depends on the bore of the barrel to the bore of the paint match. Most people opt for a barrel kit with inserts (or a bore'd back) so you can choose the right bore for the paint (all paint bores vary). Length adjusts accuracy very little, it's all down to the quality of paint and boer match. I'd recommend the smart parts freak kit.
id go for 14" (and i did) if you want a bore matching kit then get the freak if you just want one really good barrel get a dye ultralight, and if ur really after crazy range you could always get an apex, they are kinda cool, make the ball go "weeee" but imo ur better off with the ultralight. hope my ramblings are in someway helpful :P
oh and i only just saw what you said about being in mk, come down to sabotage next walkon day
Madcowman
21-11-2007, 16:25
Sabotage is good fun ;)
I've played around with varying ported barrel lengths and it seems that the paint to barrel fit is more important than the length ( not seen any difference between my 12/14/16 inch fronts on my Kaner set )
Trigger Happy
21-11-2007, 19:58
Ranges are theoretical and are dependent on velocity, temperature, elevation, weather, quality paint, clean barrel, decent regulator and a good user. There are flatline barrels that do offer extended range but I wouldn't swear by them (from personal experience). Some markers will benefit from an extended barrel (14") whilst other perform better with a short barrel (10"). If you are happy with your marker, then you have bought the right one for you.
A too long a barrel can reduce velocity resulting in a shorter range thus affecting accuracy. A barrel that is too short can have the same effect. If the marker you bought came with a 10" barrel, that is because that is the size that suits it best. Marker manufacturers want you to buy their gear so they will offer a package that suits first time.
Add ons are a marketing ploy to get you to spend more and rarley offer a superior advantage.
id just get 1 freak back and the stiffi inserts quiet as a duck farting in water
This is really funny.
I was reading a 06 facefull mag today..and it had about this in it.
the differnce between a 12" barrel and a 16" barrel is that the ball travels 4" further..thats pretty pointless if u ask me
the only good point to having a massive long barrel is that your closer to what your shooting! just get a 14 inch and that should be fine.....
NitroBall
16-03-2008, 13:39
the only good point to having a massive long barrel is that your closer to what your shooting! just get a 14 inch and that should be fine.....
In your case, you could always use it as a walking stick:D
20" inch barrel would slow the paintball down demanding higher velocity making gas usage higher. You want a barrel where the paintball reaches terminal velocity and leaves without further drag from the barrel, which is about 12" - 14". The difference in length isn't that much (give or take 3 - 7 fps each 2"). What you want in a barrel is quality like the ceramic J and J barrel you posted about. And also like people have mentioned, bore size. So if you have the money get a freak or a pipe kit, and use decent quality paint.
20" inch barrel would slow the paintball down demanding higher velocity making gas usage higher. You want a barrel where the paintball reaches terminal velocity and leaves without further drag from the barrel, which is about 12" - 14". The difference in length isn't that much (give or take 3 - 7 fps each 2"). What you want in a barrel is quality like the ceramic J and J barrel you posted about. And also like people have mentioned, bore size. So if you have the money get a freak or a pipe kit, and use decent quality paint.
You do know that it only takes aound 3.5" to accelerate a ball to 280fps/300fps, can't remmeber which they used, I do believe it was Tom Kaye (AGD) and it may also be in a sticky somewhere, 12 and 14 have become common as it tends to give the ball enough time to fly a reasonably straight path whilst not causing too much decelleration.
Doc Nickel makes 1" freak tips giving you a 5"(ish) barrel length, heres a reason freak inserts and such are so short.
oops sorry my bad, i was assuming. So the small barrels would be the most efficient. correct me if im wrong here but the accuracy will go down for such a small barrel?
oops sorry my bad, i was assuming. So the small barrels would be the most efficient. correct me if im wrong here but the accuracy will go down for such a small barrel?
Correct. 10" is about the smallest you can really get away with, whilst still maintaining decent accuracy, most tend to use 12, 14or 16" flavours
All you need to know when looking for barrels
http://www.talkpaintball.com/showthread.php?t=11802
Biker010
17-03-2008, 11:52
Get the 20" one, add a paintbrush to the end and volia....
Instant Bayonett :D
Its about the best use for it :o
Biker010
17-03-2008, 11:57
range cannot be increased unless you increase the velocity - but there is a limit on that so it cant be increased. supposedly it makes it slightly more accurate - but dont believe everything you are told!
anything over 16 inch's reduces efficiency. if i were you i would either get a 14 or a 16 inch
I have an Apex barrel that seriously increases range!!!!
problem is it won't shoot straight..... ;)
(Does a kind of wavy flight with a strange 'drift' :eek: effect, still its a good laugh)
In your case, you could always use it as a walking stick:D
how old you think I am?! :eek:
Lambchop
17-03-2008, 19:10
any one replies to this with a mention of my name or age the the only stick to come out will be the banning one:D
dfresa14
17-03-2008, 19:35
Either get an insert set or interchangable backs if you an afford it. It is proven that good paint-to-barrel match provides the best accuracy. As for length, its entirely up to you, however anything over 16in plays hell with your efficieny :o
what is the standard ion barrel length 14 or 16"
12" i believe but im not sure...
yep it is indeed a 12" barrel as stock on an ion.
lol if u want a really long barrel get yourself a dye ultralite back and a stiffy front. You can have a 23" barrel then according to the stiff web site.
You then have a nice carbon fibre front and a dye back. loads of quality products. As for what it will do who knows. IMO it is all pschological anyway.
But hey once you've seen a mini with an 18" ultra lite and a halo it's well funny:D
Artisan_Hawks
16-06-2008, 22:17
Hello every one this is actually my first post on this forum. I thought that I should add my two cents worth to the subject since I shoot with a 20" barrel after using a 12" for ages. I find that the distance is better for 1 out of every three balls shot and that the accuracy is the same except over long distance the cluster of balls is tighter then my 12". But really if you wanted a great increase in and longer range I would listen to what some of these veterens are saying about fit of ball to barrel and quality of paint.
Any one out there know anything about this patent I saw where the paintballs are shaped like golf balls?
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