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madtoxic
21-09-2008, 16:38
well let get the ball rolling .
not happy about paying extra for 4.5k and get 3.5k most off the day
14 marshalls to look after 600 players
not a good day at all
evilsooty
21-09-2008, 16:52
well let get the ball rolling .
not happy about paying extra for 4.5k and get 3.5k most off the day
14 marshalls to look after 600 players
not a good day at all
Marshalling was bad at best, cheating was rampant, I lost track of how many people I shot simply to have them disappear behind bunkers and pop out clean as a whistle, and when the marshalling was there, they seemed more interested in pulling players in red tops.
Staargate was poor in my opinion, wont be attending next year if its organised in the same way, all the money that was spent on the pyrotechnics should have been invested in more marshalls.
swiss tony
21-09-2008, 17:10
Happy to agree with all of the above,that bad i went home at 3 despite the fact i had plenty of paint left.
this was my first staargate be lookin forward to it all year and frankly it was pants, 4.5k fills where a joke only just got 4 allday, marshalling was wet, £50 on what?? fireworks? was my first and definatly my last!!!!!!!
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 17:31
i have "done " alot of these games and this is by far the most Biased one rule for them and another rule for you and not lets upset the would be TA boys with there anal antics....
trying to get a fair deal to-day was like "trying to poke butter up a porcupines ares with a red hot knitting neadle"
the only solution that would have fixed the problem was to have the correct amount of marshals and in fairness to a coulpe of them they did what they could....
that was the last time i play a senario
end of rant
well said Gassy and Chris, i agree with everything you have said, you can not have 14 "carmeramen" to 600 people, its just not good maths. The best part of the weekend was getting pissed and playing laser tag. I doubt i will be attending the event again next year. it was a waste of my time and money which could have been saved / spent on better things
D3ath ADder
21-09-2008, 17:32
Got to agree with the posts above. If I was'nt buzzing off seeing familiar faces again and playing paintball for the first time in a year I would have been more peed off.
What really wound me up was then the 3 fires near the transporter stopped play and we saw blues move up into better cover. Also saw some serious wiping going on. There was generally a bad feeling all day as people walked past with gripes about the play going on. Was a bit miffed that we had to run at the enemy to get into the transporter and they just had to whip round one corner.
Still, nice weather and good to see y'all again :D
Monster.
21-09-2008, 17:51
gutted for you guys! was really gutted i missed this but then again i've been swimming with sharks and rays with my new wife and i'm brown as fooooook! also just got 3rd place in crab racing, free wine! onto Sri Lanka !!!!!!!!! :D
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 17:59
we have a special little button for you young sir it's called the ban button....
hope all is good with you and your better half
Crowdedjester1
21-09-2008, 18:10
I so agree with all of the above. This was my first Stargate and have been looking forward to this since I started playing. It was such a let down that people just weren't playing fair and coming out of that transporter was an ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!:( :(
Stafford93
21-09-2008, 18:11
dont give up lads, we lost today but next year ORI will own
dont give up lads, we lost today but next year ORI will own
its got nothing to do with loosing it was sh1t fair and square
The most enjoable part was packing my gear back in my bag..........
Someone needs to let them know its not frikin bonfire night either with the MINT fireworks
Count me out next year... ill be at alton towers :D
Andy-YPC
21-09-2008, 18:24
I actually enjoyed today as much as last year even though we didn't win. The Ori actually came second and only by a few points.
I thought that although we lacked scenario experienced players, we actually played better than the goodies.
The taking of the transport was very very difficult. This was going to be where the game was won. We did really well for the first 20 mins or so but found that not being able to shoot blue players from the right hand side cost us dearly.
I was sickened by the vandalism on Saturday night, there would have been 4 tables smashed had it not been for the quick intervention of Timboy. I actually saw the culprits and am happy to tell you they wern't playing on the Ori side.
I really enjoy this kind of event and the challenges it brings and will be back next year if asked.
I want to know where my £50 went ? A fire work display that did what ?
more marshals or more toilets that were not over flowing would have been a better spend
I have played or marshalled all the staargate series and this one was the worst by far.
14 marshals was an absolute disgrace,there were more cameramen than refs
Every evil player who paid for 4500psi should be refunded as the only 4500 fill was 1st thing then we were lucky to get 3500.Talking to guys from the top safe area they had well over 4 for most of the day.
it seemed there was a differant player pack for the blues saying the 1st 20 hits don't count and then you wipe down and respawn exactly where you are or 2 paces back then cotinue to play.Also you don't have to wear your faction colour if you don't want to,just tuck it in the back of your pack.I could only shoot 5 players out at a go as it took a pot per blue to get them to walk
The only way the game could have been anymore biased to the blues would have been to engrave their name on the trophy last night.Example the door to the transporter was on the goodie side so they could cover it and an out of bounds area so the baddies could not.
This was my 1st game this year and I was really looking forward to it,what a let down.
I hope the £2 the badguys paid for the extra air is collected and given to charity and not put into the organiser pockets as you did NOT provide anything like 4500psi to the bottom safe area.
I hope Bully is laughing his tits off all the way to the bank,his renting the site out was a stroke of absolute genius this year,I salute you Steve
Gassy, agree with you 100% of the way, bollox to fireworks we should of had more toilets...i went to 3 bogs and there were brown trownies touching the toilet seats !, fireworks..not needed, purhapse a Big bang to start the day, and one to end it. All the baddies who payd for 4.5k ( inc myself )....should be peeved, i agree with gassy that the 4.5k money from the lower spawn should be given to charity
One thing that peeeved me off was getting shot over the " taped " zone near the white van.....we got told not to shoot over it...they did...and shooting across the field in salad bowl i mean cmon wtf ! and that transporter, notice how the netting was blue...kinda made sense since they had 100% advantage on that !!!!!!
Rant over, was nice to chill with the guys at night and catch up with familiar faces, but my last staargate i think.
Ion Andy
P.s, gassman hows ur finger ? heard you got bonus'd ?
Oh and Andy, did you find out if that blue tape we hunted for existed dude.?
yeah it did we found it and the marshalls but just wondered why they was there and walked past :confused:
Broken92
21-09-2008, 18:34
...I take it this didn't go very well then? :p
D3ath ADder
21-09-2008, 18:41
Most confusing part of the day was when paintballs were being shot into our safe zone.
We're not talking one or two here they were coming over every few seconds for about a minute until the marshal sorted it.
yea that was bollox i left just before it started only to see at least 10 blues nailing paint over the green netting:rolleyes:
if it goes ahead next year i recon there should be some sort of rule on paint as some of it out there was like marbles 1 guy shot at me from no more than 20 feet way only for it to hit my hopper and bounce back towards him:rolleyes: the only ball ive ever seen do anything like that is a reball
some pics if you can be bothered:rolleyes::D I was just happy to be shooting people, then shoot them again and again and again and again and again and again..............
http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=59973&l=2a57d&id=546561809
mattchew
21-09-2008, 19:24
on the whole i thought it was ok!! had fun while i was out there, the only thing i thought was crap was having a section cut out from our side of the site right next the the transporter which meant we couldnt really cover it properly, also to add with that the goodies were able to cover comfortably cos they had the run around of arthurs as well as slim jim!!! that transporter shoukd have been bang in the middle of the site, it was too close to the goodie faction they go across one field and they are there, we had to get through two!! and they are the biggest two on the whole site!!
Andy-YPC
21-09-2008, 19:25
I can't believe you got 2 pictures of Bod, he must only have played for 20 mins all day.
Personally guys, although the cheating was horrendous, the blues had one rule and we had another, the fact they were totally allowed to shoot over the out of bounds areas, and the marshalling was the biggest pile of sh*te since king kong got the runs after a vindaloo, i have to say that it was a pleasure to play with all of the guys on the red team. I enjoyed playing with some great paintballers and also meeting a lot of new people. You should be proud of the way you conducted yourselves guys, you played paintball like it should be played, hats off to you!!!! It was just a shame that the bad marshalling and the blatant disregard for the rules from the other side spoilt the day for all. i will be thinking twice before thinking of attending next year.
We lost but we fought with HONOUR
You're a nice guy Fento.... I kill you last.
AHAHHAHAHHAHA Gassy you legend!!!
cheers Kenny. its very much appreciated!
this was my first staargate and i think it will be my last. I really liked how it took a full pod of paint to get a blue to go out . When i did see a blue go out after I shot him once (yes he didn't cheat) a marshel told him to wipe it off and dive into the nearest cover. The marshelling was crap.
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 19:40
i must add that not ALL the marshals were bad a coulpe of the UK refs did all they could but there hands were tied.....
so lets not tar them all with the same brush eh
Very good comment Lamb - UK Refs (The two in transporter) Well done guys.. you know who you are...
As for daft marshall who wouldnt move from slim jim barricade near blues.. sorry for shooting you with a whole hopper...
Im not used to ramp mode..
agree with that mr lamb you could spot the refs mixed in with the marshalls as they were the ones doing the checking and following the rules
also for the daft marshall who at the transporter stepped infront of the blue i was firing at to throw a smoke grenade in my direction..... im not sorry for shooting you... it your own bloody fault you got lit up........ Prat.
Artisan_Hawks
21-09-2008, 19:47
Just wonder if someone who was in charge of this, had alot of money on Blue to win! Te he he
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 19:47
they were the blues..................... nuf said
Ooooffff... hahaha nice point!!
I dont know if you guys want in on this but I have a few mates serving with 42 Commando Royal Marines who are off to Afghanistan before Xmas.. We could go with them with out paint guns....
We will probably have more chance of the Taliban playing fair?
yea no chance of them wiping
Kenny.... u r a legend my friend.... lets have a beer :D
We will probably have more chance of the Taliban playing fair?
True... very true
No last time we had a beer we got up to alsorts!! hahah your a legend Danny boy.. you make me laugh mate.. ! A Star!
lumps and bumps
21-09-2008, 19:54
Guys as a member of the powerplay team i am realy sorry you had a bad day please dont let this put you off. After last years negative comments steve thought he would let somebody else show him how to do it! HE WAS WRONG! Hopefully with a bit of luck and a lot of naggin next year ste will be back. Andy it was not tim that saved the fourth table it was me. Ifelt sorry for the guys that were havin fun but i could not sit there while my site was being trashed. I would like to thank paul banks from bz for gettin his lads to repair the tables.Hopefully i will see you next year
Just read a little snippet on uk scenario about how the blues managed to get the ultimate weapon, so it got me thinking..... did any of our red guys see any part of this weapon? it just seems they got it a little too easily, probably because it was conveniantly placed?
Can I open a paypal dispute as I got nothing like what was promised when I paid ?
LOL lets do it !, if we won...half to charity lol.
We all know how the site was set and why the rules where the way they were... why we were at the bottom end... why the transporter was where it was... so looking in to these points is now exhausted guys...
It was all very convient.. Bully has the experience and the heart to pull of excellent big games. I think he is the only one who could pull people back in.. as Im not going to another scenario event but if Bully steps up maybe I will be tempted.
RIGHT LETS GET STARTED ENJOY MYSELF YES. value for money no reason being where were the toilets ,last year 6 at top end with one for the ladies,bottom end had 3.this year 4 at top 2 at bottom.marshalling don,t get me started here,ok i will 35 marshalls last year this 16 and only the uk refs where any good ,to see 4 refs cowering behind a baracade,:mad: to be told by a ref i,m not there to stop them cheating what a load of crap.to see a ref wipe a blue down when the guy was walking and put him back in,when there were a couple of fires on fats letting the blues move up.but what pissed me off the most was when the blues were fireing across the field and the path the refs let them do it when we did it back we got bollocked:rolleyes: the positioning of the pyros well you might aswell have aimed the things at our safe area and used them to bomb use as they only helped the blues who used the van as a barracade,they could attack from at least two field we could not use fats to fire on the staargate because they where in the way which also funneled the reds on salad making the staargate hard to attack,as fore the transporter again why did it get put there only one team had an advantage on that aswell as 1 side could cover it from numerous angles the others couldn,t.sorry to say this but did look as though we were stitched up,i mean i always thought it was 1 shot 1 kill not 1pot 1 kill .the only thing is WE,RE GOING TO GET THIS IS SOUR GRAPES BUT FOR ME NOT i,ve helped to put this event on for the last couple of years by marshalling and build work and to get told by the goodies every year it was crap and not value for money and that it was a rip off,well 2 of your own did it this year and if you can look me in the eye,s and tell m,e it,s the best you,ve played .i will stand there and call you a bare faced liar.i can do this as i,ve been on both sides of the coin.if the fields where fair the reffing better and the blatent cheating going on being stopped the day would have been brilliant:mad:
Lets put it in perspective... it was run as a business as it is a business so they had to let the key buyer enjoy themselves... they play scenario for a reason.. to pretend they are soldiers and act the part. So they engineered it so they won... lets face it... they wouldnt win if it was fair and we proved that last year.. and the year before..
Artisan_Hawks
21-09-2008, 20:11
Next year real guns! and fair will be fair really quick! LOL. I actually am really gutted for you guys I hate cheaters with a passion
Got to say I was disappointed. I normally play at any opportunity but the blatant cheating is making me think twice about next year. I actually enjoyed the games on the Saturday more than Sunday. And thanks for putting on the pump and pistol games even if there were only 5 of us.
My first big game! I can't say I hated it apart from this 1 pot 1 kill, more like 1box 1 kill, The transporter area was a joke and where was the stargate I didnt even see it.... Ah well other then that was great to hangout with all u real p8ntballers :D...
this event was nothing to do with powerplay send your grievences to www.ukscenario.com
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 20:22
nobody is blaming Powerplay or Bully Bisc.....
xissteve
21-09-2008, 20:23
aww, man, you guys must have been soo angry, especially when the blues were shooting over your safe zone, i rekon i wudnt be able to control my temper and pound the bast**rd who did it. i sucky worked today so, smelt of greasy chips when i got home today, id much prefere feeling sweaty and paint in my beard when i come home, i was so jealous of not been able to go. I have anger for the event now, im sorry you guys had a bad time, i like the afganistan aproach, and the taliban been not wipers, as if you get em, they are dead, so unless they become zombies, it would be much more fair. :p
know that lamby,but lot of new guys there today and would hope that if the master that is bully,decides to take up the reins again then these guys don,t think that the game will be the same . ALL GREIVANCES SHOULD BE POSTED ON WWW.UKSCENARIO.COM
D3ath ADder
21-09-2008, 20:30
I made a crude diagram of how not to build a key objective.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k161/spudgun0/rapezone.jpg
As the diagram clearly shows, one team has to successfully navigate through the 'rape zone' to enter, wheres the other team merely has to duck round a bit of netting.
evilsooty
21-09-2008, 20:31
this event was nothing to do with powerplay send your grievences to www.ukscenario.com
Mate, I think we are all too aware that it didnt have anything to do with Steve.
And for what its worth, ill only be attending Staargate again if its done by steve.
Hi Guys,
I have for sale x1 Paintball Repelling Tshirt in Blue only... I cant say where I got it from but it is military grade and was designed by NASA.
Its been proven in an under ground test facility in Morcombe that it will repell up to 94% of paintballs fired.
Thats right!!! Thats 94 paintballs out of 100!! WOWSERRR!!!!
I hear you scenario guys!! "What about the other 5%?"
Well for your information its 6% but I wont hold a grudge.... The 6% area is where this NASA designed T shirt seperates it from the everyday T shirts Losers wear!!!
The T shirt is designed with a Waterproof Lining from material called "Icheet". The material is found in deepest darkest Hull and is durable as well as easy iron!!
"Icheet" allows the user to simply wipe that paint away and not even the best marshall will prove you've been hit!!
All this can be yours for £12.50 + £20 Postage!!!
Im afraid there is a wait on these as I had a batch of 250 shipped in and they went missing the Friday just gone.
All Enquiries to icheetsales@actionmen.co.uk
See Picture for prototype!! Only in blue!!
Dont choose Defeat.... Choose "Icheet!"
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 20:32
nice one Adam...........and Kenny
evilsooty
21-09-2008, 20:32
I made a crude diagram of how not to build a key objective.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k161/spudgun0/rapezone.jpg
As the diagram clearly shows, one team has to successfully navigate through the 'rape zone' to enter, wheres the other team merely has to duck round a bit of netting.
Rape Zone!!!! Legendary
I think that properly sums that up :D
evilsooty
21-09-2008, 20:34
Hi Guys,
I have for sale x1 Paintball Repelling Tshirt in Blue only... I cant say where I got it from but it is military grade and was designed by NASA.
Its been proven in an under ground test facility in Morcombe that it will repell up to 94% of paintballs fired.
Thats right!!! Thats 94 paintballs out of 100!! WOWSERRR!!!!
I hear you scenario guys!! "What about the other 5%?"
Well for your information its 6% but I wont hold a grudge.... The 6% area is where this NASA designed T shirt seperates it from the everyday T shirts Losers wear!!!
The T shirt is designed with a Waterproof Lining from material called "Icheet". The material is found in deepest darkest Hull and is durable as well as easy iron!!
"Icheet" allows the user to simply wipe that paint away and not even the best marshall will prove you've been hit!!
All this can be yours for £12.50 + £20 Postage!!!
Im afraid there is a wait on these as I had a batch of 250 shipped in and they went missing the Friday just gone.
All Enquiries to icheetsales@actionmen.co.uk
See Picture for prototype!! Only in blue!!
Dont choose Defeat.... Choose "Icheet!"
Get this on eBay, you'll make a mint
Kenny strikes again... LEGend
xissteve
21-09-2008, 20:37
i love the rape zone!! damn, wish i went now,lol
u wish u went???
i just wish i knew could rape people :(
Get this on eBay, you'll make a mint
First order was taken an hour ago!!!!
All I have is a Purchase Order number - G00DI35
Which doesnt mean much to me!!! ;)
Artisan_Hawks
21-09-2008, 20:40
Hi Guys,
I have for sale x1 Paintball Repelling Tshirt in Blue only... I cant say where I got it from but it is military grade and was designed by NASA.
Its been proven in an under ground test facility in Morcombe that it will repell up to 94% of paintballs fired.
Thats right!!! Thats 94 paintballs out of 100!! WOWSERRR!!!!
I hear you scenario guys!! "What about the other 5%?"
Well for your information its 6% but I wont hold a grudge.... The 6% area is where this NASA designed T shirt seperates it from the everyday T shirts Losers wear!!!
The T shirt is designed with a Waterproof Lining from material called "Icheet". The material is found in deepest darkest Hull and is durable as well as easy iron!!
"Icheet" allows the user to simply wipe that paint away and not even the best marshall will prove you've been hit!!
All this can be yours for £12.50 + £20 Postage!!!
Im afraid there is a wait on these as I had a batch of 250 shipped in and they went missing the Friday just gone.
All Enquiries to icheetsales@actionmen.co.uk
See Picture for prototype!! Only in blue!!
Dont choose Defeat.... Choose "Icheet!"
I wasnt there but Damm your funny Kenny!!! LOL great t-shirt I will buy one :D
xissteve
21-09-2008, 20:43
yes, i wish i was there, so i kud sort those blue nobs out!grrrr
kenny that is foooookin brilliant
Hi Guys,
I have for sale x1 Paintball Repelling Tshirt in Blue only... I cant say where I got it from but it is military grade and was designed by NASA.
Its been proven in an under ground test facility in Morcombe that it will repell up to 94% of paintballs fired.
Thats right!!! Thats 94 paintballs out of 100!! WOWSERRR!!!!
I hear you scenario guys!! "What about the other 5%?"
Well for your information its 6% but I wont hold a grudge.... The 6% area is where this NASA designed T shirt seperates it from the everyday T shirts Losers wear!!!
The T shirt is designed with a Waterproof Lining from material called "Icheet". The material is found in deepest darkest Hull and is durable as well as easy iron!!
"Icheet" allows the user to simply wipe that paint away and not even the best marshall will prove you've been hit!!
All this can be yours for £12.50 + £20 Postage!!!
Im afraid there is a wait on these as I had a batch of 250 shipped in and they went missing the Friday just gone.
All Enquiries to icheetsales@actionmen.co.uk
See Picture for prototype!! Only in blue!!
Dont choose Defeat.... Choose "Icheet!"
Kenny, you seem to have forgotten the part where they turn into harry potter, the t shirt for limited time ( when theres a fire and people in red stop and put the fire out ) will make you invisible allowing you to move up the field to an appropriate bunker without being spotted by a marshall.
Lambchop
21-09-2008, 20:49
that'll put a coulpe o quid on the price
kenny bet you do a line of one way specs for refs aswell
love the map!!!! but why was i shot out all the time in the 'rape zone' but when the blues had the trasporter i got an almighty bollocking from marshalls for firing into the said zone???? I was told we were not allowed to shoot there
HAHAHAHAHA
Read the last post guys
http://www.ukscenario.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5076
yea didnt think it would take long, not bad loosers, NOT HAPPY CUSTOMERS
Clearly not a sore loser, i don't give a shite who wins.
I just wanted to go out and shoot people, which seemed to be a tad impossible when people are cheating, and have a laugh.
However...
guys i know this is our forum but get on www.ukscenario.com and air your thoughts there the organisers are more likely to read it there because thats where there mates post
evilsooty
21-09-2008, 21:15
I personally think that any kind of response from us is going to be seen as sour grapes, theres nothing to be gained, its not going to change anything :(
Nothing mate... they got what they wanted so it was job well done to them
guys be constructive moan about the bad bits of the game layout the toilets,the air fillsand the marshalling not the cheating
At the end of the day its just a game of paintball guys.:rolleyes:
I'm not fussed who wins or loses,as long as i can say i had a good-ish day,played with honesty and had a laugh.
OK,the toilets were horrendous,don't paid pay for the 4500 fill,didn't see the need to as i was using my 07.
Saw wiping on the red side too.
The marshalls were a bit thin on the ground but it was the same last year.I lost count how many times i was asked for a paint check because i was wearing a reflective bib as i was taking pictures with the Convicts,i didn't see many marshalls doing there job then either to be honest.
I called myself out many times even if the opposing player couldn't see where i'd been hit,the walk back to the safe zone killed me,the worst being the time we moved up on the left hand side,must have took me 10 mins to get back,i'll suffer for it in the morning.
oily there were over double the amount last year and thats a fact
oily there were over double the amount last year and thats a fact
Not arguing the amount Biscuit but some were there last year just for the money and not interested in marshalling.
Andy-YPC
21-09-2008, 21:40
Every team is convinced that the opposing team is cheating, it's paintball. There are 4 sides to every story in paintball,
1) What you saw
2) What the opposition said happened
3) What the marshal saw
4) What actually happened.
Posts accusing other players of any kind of misconduct are not usefull
I don't believe that the position of the no go area was deliberately set up to favour the goodies nor do I believe that the doorway of the transport had been deliberately set up in the way it was.
Do I believe that the baddies would have won had the transport not been set up in the way it was....Probably. We were way ahead by 3:30pm with only 30 mins to go. I believe our plan was better than the goodies. I asked Wickham, when it was apparent that we were locked down if we could use the taped off area, he said no and rightly so, that's where the Pyro's had been and there could have been unexploded mortars there. I wish now I had asked him if we could have shot across the taped area because I think he would have said yes. My fault for not thinking quicker.
As for the ultimate weapon, Gups told me that the Klingons had a piece at the pyramids. I got it and hid it in the Alpha base. I didn't think that we would get all 4 pieces and didn't want any other faction to get this 4th piece. The Klingons must have rumbled this because when I went back to check that it was there, it had gone. This gave the winning faction 4000 faction points.
The Ori only lost best faction by 5000 points. Had the piece of the weapon been left in alpha base and we had found 2 more artifacts, the Ori would have won best faction. That's how close it was.
lumps and bumps
21-09-2008, 21:45
Andy you are correct the guys doin the explosives marked that area out after the transport had already been set up. The lack of marshals was due to people lettin tim and lee down on the day nothin they could do about that at such short notice!
There was just a couple of things that annoyed me:
1.The tables in the safe area getting trashed :mad:
2.The guy shouting 'Yes chef' countless times on the mike at the party.What was all that about :confused:
Andy-YPC
21-09-2008, 22:12
I know that we didn't get to kidnap the goodie faction leaders, but apparently the distraction artifacts put into the stargate worked a treat.
Spyderman still believes that the plan we accidentally let him take was the real plan.
I can't believe how hard it was to get the goodie faction to steal the decoy plan. In the end I had to let Spyderman take the folder and drop some plans on the floor.
young bisc
21-09-2008, 22:13
Andy you are correct the guys doin the explosives marked that area out after the transport had already been set up. The lack of marshals was due to people lettin tim and lee down on the day nothin they could do about that at such short notice!
if they had asked bulley I could have brought some marshells we me I could not play but I could have marshelled
Ahhh finally home and feel all broken!
Was a good weekend and was great seeing everyone again! The day was good fun the only thing that let it down was the amount of bonus balling. Ok theres a lot of paint being fired about but when your the only bugger in the area you kinda feel that its a little cheeky.
there was a lot of wipeing on both sides also a lot of honest play from both sides. well done to those that walked when hit. them that didnt why it was only a game. as for me i was all set to play this morning and was asked at 8.30 to help with the marshaling along with 3 other lads from our team.(why no marshals turned up not my concern we were just tryin to help out) so we stepped in to try and help. but as a lot of you have said 16 marshals for 600 players how were we supposed to cover everybody on the feild. from what i saw the marshals did try but it not easy when 30 people shouting at you all at the same time. we did stop the shooting into safe camp when we were told about it. but there was a lot of confusion about shooting over the track and even now i still not sure if you can or not.???
not a easy job to do today but we did try.
well done to all that played today. at least the wether was good.
i just starting to get my hearing back i stood on the track between all the explosions for a hour. as for the toilets well that was just not nice.
My day (and i was a blue):
Toilets - lucky i have a good bladder (and the niceness of the hotel!) so i cant comment, lucky i didnt have to use them!
Stalls - fine no probs at all
Refreshments - didnt buy one myself but paying a £1 for some hot water and a smidge of coffee/tea is abit steep imo.
Marshalls - They seem to concentrate on the road and no where else - and 16 marshalls is bad, i could of been laying in a gutter for ages and no help
Whiping of the paint - im sure it happened to all sides, alot bounced off me and im a honest player. Plus at the blue netting was only a few seconds away from our spawn point, doesnt take long to go there and return (didnt need to fill up on paint or air)
Netting/things to do - I agree, the netting did seem unfair to the reds (allthough there was loads of reds sitting there in the morning shooting out of it do blues didnt move for ages)
Air - Read a thread about the organisers said that there will be enough air to cover 500+ players at both ends - it wasnt the case, we only went up to 4.5 about twice, then no higher then 3 at some times. (i dont think it was the air companys fault, maybe because of the two fill stations instead of one)
Fireworks - one big bang in the morning, and 2 or so when it finished - i enjoyed the speakers (of birds/jungle sounds) at north vs south more (and made it realistic/fun) all they was was bangs and could of done that with a few thunder flashes. (I also beleive Shoreline are wanting to expand into becoming one of the best Pyro companys on the big game circuit, please dont!)
Would i go again? Probally as all i enjoy is shooting and didnt notice most of the things above till i read threads, worth £52? nah
They took over £25,000+, it be quite nice to know how much they spent on us, i know its a business, but if you dont put the money into it you wont receive the rewards (returning business)
D3ath ADder
21-09-2008, 22:33
Fireworks - one big bang in the morning, and 2 or so when it finished -
Oh god I'd have done anything to swap with you. The full, loud display took place a few hundred meters away from the baddie safe area. Everyone in there was shouting for it to stop, I mean seriously it went on for 15 or 20 mins....maybe longer :(.
They took over £25,000+
They spent most of it on fireworks, see above!
young bisc
21-09-2008, 23:16
I've marshaled everyone of these staargate games untill this year. So far all I have ever seen is complaints on how things have been organized. Each year you moan about the same things cheating, marshals and how it has been organized. For the last three years it has not been put on by the same people and everyone has to learn somewhere. Why don't you tell them what you think should be done then they could get it right next year
I've marshaled everyone of these staargate games untill this year. So far all I have ever seen is complaints on how things have been organized. Each year you moan about the same things cheating, marshals and how it has been organized. For the last three years it has not been put on by the same people and everyone has to learn somewhere. Why don't you tell them what you think should be done then they could get it right next year
Well...if we have been moaning about the toilets for 3 effin years purhapse they should start to listen and do something about it !!! not common sense that a few porta loo's aint gonna do 400+ players for two days is it !
Invasion 1940
21-09-2008, 23:55
Marshalls - They seem to concentrate on the road and no where else - and 16 marshalls is bad, i could of been laying in a gutter for ages and no help
I think they concentrated there because that's where 90% of the players were. Earlier in the day there were more marshalls at the middle and bottom of the field but in the last 2 hours there wasn't much activity other than at the main path.
I thought the marshalling was a bit better than last year, but I guess it depends where you were or who was around. I clattered into a branch at one point and a marshal was there in about 30 secs to check if I was ok and to do a paint check. Last year in the areas where I fought the marshals didn't seem to do much, but I found them a bit more pro-active this year
Whiping of the paint - im sure it happened to all sides, alot bounced off me and im a honest player. Plus at the blue netting was only a few seconds away from our spawn point, doesnt take long to go there and return (didnt need to fill up on paint or air)
+1 ... one of the things you notice about some of the bigger games are the amount of people who stand up lift their markers at 30 degrees and longball. Both sides were doing it, but even if you hit someone through the brambles and leaves, fact is that you'll be lucky if you get a break. I got hit a number of times and shots bounced. Couple of times I couldn't tell if it had bounced or not because I couldn't see; I called myself out, but found when re-spawning there was no break. I'm sure there were a couple of times when I got bouncers that the enemy team thought - i've hit him - and they wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but by the time the paint got to me it was dropping so slowly it just bounced off.
Thing that surprised me is that most teams stuck to the top path area. Some of the reds did push through the gully and got about 15 metres short of the staargate about midday. It was only defended by 2 blues but they didn't push on.
Netting/things to do - I agree, the netting did seem unfair to the reds (allthough there was loads of reds sitting there in the morning shooting out of it do blues didnt move for ages)
I've played at the far end the last 2 years; the staargate is very close to the near end and its always an issue if there isn't an equivalent objective near the other base.
The netting and pyro area made taking that area at game on almost impossible for the blues as reds could get behind the netting and the blues couldn't flank as they were canalised on the path between the taped off pyro area and the netting. Reds were quick of the mark, but the sealed off areas prevented the blues from putting any sort of effective push down the top of the field at game on...
Given the netting etc, I'm surprised teams didn't try pushing down the middle or bottom of the field. the dead ground allowed you to shoot up onto the path where both teams were massed. For the last 30 mins of the game the middle and bottom of the field was held by about 12 blues against 10? reds - was really good fun with some good fair play on both sides, but was a bit strange that everybody just congregated on the path ...
I enjoyed myself; the bigger games [300 +] are what you make of them; I spent most of my time in the middle and the bottom because it was more open and you could move more; there were some really good scraps and some good play on both sides.
Invasion 1940
21-09-2008, 23:59
I can't believe how hard it was to get the goodie faction to steal the decoy plan. In the end I had to let Spyderman take the folder and drop some plans on the floor.
I think everyone realised it was a fake though on the basis that flanking round the bottom of the field would have taken far too long and left the blues in charge of both the top and the staargate; when the 'evil' team did this last year, the team at the bottom couldn't re-take the top of the field
Dark Warrior
22-09-2008, 06:32
Just to point out to all that the date of the event caused the withdrawal of over 15 marshals
When the majority of your big event marshals are SupAir players it does pay to check that there are not any major sup air events already running on that weekend. I assumed that those details had been checked as SupAir diary has been available since December and when I was made aware of the clash, I gave ample notice that it would not be possible cover this event.
Had it not been for this oversight then you would have had more than double the Marshals on field.
It was such a shame as most of the guys are from this region it would have been only a short distance to travel for us
Sorry we could not be there as we enjoyed last years almost as much as the players seemed to.
2.The guy shouting 'Yes chef' countless times on the mike at the party.What was all that about :confused:
It was the powerplay marshal massive, who had to take over the DJ'ing as the payed DJ's apparently fecked off. this is what I was told so may not be fact
I read through the UKscenario thread... there bound to have enjoyed it. I have my own thoughts on scenario players and the people that know me know that.
They loved the event as they didnt have to walk far... they could stand just outsdie the safe zone and fire off a hopper or a "mag" or "Clip" and go back in to get a drink and a burger.
As for the event Young Bisc the marshalling was crap no two ways about it. They were not marhalls... the UK Refs were good and it was actually refreshing to be pulled for a hit on your back you dont see.
As for the event we can moan about the portaloos being crap.. they always are...
The fire works... waste of dollar.. probably but it made the scenario players feel a bit more like the TA.
My main concern was the air...
1 - It wasnt kicking out what we PAID for 4500
2 - Alot of bottles didnt fit the fill rig so the answer "I will file your fill nipple down"
3 - Whose bottle was checked for a test date?
Exactly..
reet i wanna start off by saying i aint ever doing staargate again unless steve does it.
cheers to Timboy and Wickham for putting the fireworks display on over our safe area, cheers for the throbbing head ahce it gave me :mad: :mad:
and if theres any blues reading this... cheers for shooting the living **** outta me when one of you idiots threw a smoke grenade with started a fire out side the transporter room and i tried to put it out. :mad: :mad:
there the only negative things im gonna say.
in an earlier post biscuit said i'd be lying if i/everyone said we didnt have a good time. Suprisingly (sp) although i thought the day as a whole was shit, been out in the woods in a fire fight with your mates was great.
sat night was really good cheers to everyone who stopped buy for a laugh. big thanks to kenny who managed to soak every dry t shirt i had bar 1:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
and the most funnyist thing ive ever seen, Bod after working his way through 24 cans of foster :eek: :eek: falling off his chair :D :D
The most fun i had on sun was running in the afternoon round without a marker trying to get us to push past the transporter (i was the large rotund guy running around shouting keep moving)
cheers to steve and karl for letting me borrow their markers and the guy who gave me some paint grenades to throw.
Chris think you might need a bigger bottle if you ever do a scenario game again, you need to thank alex and ian for the paint i scrounged for you lol
last thing im gonna say is a big thanks to everyone in a red shirt yesterday.
The fire works... waste of dollar.. probably but it made the scenario players feel a bit more like the TA.
My main concern was the air...
1 - It wasnt kicking out what we PAID for 4500
2 - Alot of bottles didnt fit the fill rig so the answer "I will file your fill nipple down"
3 - Whose bottle was checked for a test date?
Exactly..
That is a damn good point I forgot about the air rigs. No one even looked at my bottle, last year we all got a little sticker saying it was checked and safe to use.
As for the fireworks they do know that they do jack all in the day time right?
Also what was with the pyro guys walking about just out of bounds with no masks on? A stray ball or someone with an itchy trigger figure could have done some seriouse damage!
My main concern was the air...
1 - It wasnt kicking out what we PAID for 4500 "TRUE"
2 - Alot of bottles didnt fit the fill rig so the answer "I will file your fill nipple down" "DODGY"
3 - Whose bottle was checked for a test date? "NOPE I EVEN ASKED ABOUT THAT ON THE DAY AND WAS TOLD IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE UPON REGISTRATION WHEN WE BOUGHT THE RED TAG OF DOOM"
Lambchop
22-09-2008, 10:48
the view to take on this game i think depends if you won or lost....
so if you won then it was the best all round day ever and you seem to over look the down side of things but if you lost then you look to find out why....
and then blame every body and ever thing regardless of whether it was fact or fiction........
Invasion 1940
22-09-2008, 10:50
The guys in berets and assault vests down the near end were dressed as Russian special forces as they were playing in the Russian faction.
Have to say that there were some pretty cool outfits in the sci-fi perspective too - body armour, lycra and cloaks :D
I can't grumble much as I felt rough most of sunday, the baddies bogs we had were clean "before" I used them :D as for cheating, I'll hold my hands up to wiping, but only from the hits recieved from over the farmers field!:mad: I can see both sides of the story now from playing from both ends, top last year and bottom this year. Although the transporter was fecking stupid in design, there should have been two entrances one for each side in my humble opinion, biscuits bunch did a great job with the building work over the past few weeks/months so a big up for bullies site;) the fill stations were well set up and was hardly any queing all day, although the £2 price tag should have been included in the price as should the extra £2 for paypal fees!!! as for the 4500 fill, the highest I got was around 3900 so a tad poo, but theres nowt we can do to change that, maybe next year there could be a time machine built;) . The UK marshals we had were spot on as always, they weren't scared of been hit and were very encouraging and G'ing for the final pushes, as for the other marshals... well think they were more concerned for their own saftey than the players! as for them checking for cheating, that should be down to the player doing the cheating, theres no reason to cheat in big games as you can respawn? and the only person you are cheating is your self! The pyros did nothing for us as they were behind our safe area so you could'nt hear your self think, even heard that a piece of one of the fireworks landed on some ones lap in the "SAFE AREA" while taking a break from the game, heard this form several people, so is more likely to be true than not! so health and safety could be questioned... with all these faults and hearing that people were vandalising property, I actually enjoyed it a wee bit :eek: and still managed to pitch my tent on a slope yet again:( Will I be going next year if it goes ahead? 50/50, but if I do I'll be going on the day and not camping, unless theres a flat spot on the campsite any where?
Alex
mattchew
22-09-2008, 11:37
how is that different to the last 2 years?
I played at the far safe zone the other 2 years and players there had to charge up hill all day to capture the staargate [v close to near spawn], or got shot leaving their spawn [last year] If anything I thought it was slightly more balanced this year with some extra objectives closer to the middle of the field
btw there were quite a few scenario players and teams down the far end too; maybe you didn't notice as they weren't marching around, drilling and saluting but rather were on the field playing :rolleyes: ?
fair comments, but atleast last year there were many objectives and they were all over the sites ie - attacking bases at certain times all different ones, this year however the objectives were mainly around the transporter and stargate, both considerably closer to the top safe area. if the pyros had been placed in a better location it would have been a much different story, imagine they were at the end of arthurs (the one with all the reels) instead?? that would have made life alot more difficult for the goodies, something which we had to put up with instead. the transporter was bang at the end of fat freddies field, it would have been better slap bang in the middle of it, were both teams have equal chance of getting round all sides.
evilsooty
22-09-2008, 11:48
a couple of things i wasn't impressed with that I had forgotten was the total lack of bottle checking. I could have had an out of date bottle or anything and no one would have checked something that i'm used to at the YPC having my bottle taking from me and verified prior to being allowed to use it.
The other thing, which i was seriously unimpressed with was live (unlit) pyrotechnics being found in the red safe area (where people were stood smoking), one of the guys picked it up and took it to the pyro guys, wish i knew who it was, but that was seriously dangerous, add to that, hearing a "oh shit" from behind me as one of the pyros landed next to the guy stood behind me in the safe area.
I usually go to big games as i see them less as scenario games and more as a bloody huge walk on! How wrong i was for this one!
I went for a days balling and a good laugh with friends i haven't seen in a year and make new friends. The last two happened but the good days paintballing. The only thing i can criticize (sp) lee and tim about is far too much was spent on the pyro! yes it sounded good but WHY? My major bugbear of the weekend was the overshooting. If someones walking away from you with their marker and hand in the air there really is no point in putting another half dozen balls in the back of their head.
Archipelego
22-09-2008, 12:22
Ok - i've read everyone's posts and wasn't going to add my comments but thought what they hey!.
On the whole I had a lot of fun yesterday and I'd go next year, even if the same guys did it again.
My main gripes .....
Well, only one of the air lines fitted my bottle. When I asked the guy who provided the air his response was "file your fill nipple down". Yeah, like i'm going to do that, maybe I should have oiled it up to try and ease it in ...doh!!!!
The fact that the pyro guys van and the taped off area completly ruined the flow of the game in the top area.
Why on earth did we have Disney's firework display next to our safe area. Seemed a bit pointless.
The fact the most people seemed to congregate around the top field. A group of us went round the bottom and managed to clear all the way to the fort before running out of steam.
Lets leave it Ken... we have all voiced our veiws on how disapointed we was with cetain aspects of the weekend, us all going on will not alter the fact, the day is over
I know your point about expressing your oppinions on the other forum but it seems to be falling on deaf ears, they will not accept out veiws as were not one of THEM
As you posted previously for a few well respected members of the paintball comunity (you know who you are) to pack up early and lose there temper with things shows things were not all rosie
Andy-YPC
22-09-2008, 13:02
Whilst I have respect for people to express their views, it's now becoming a bit silly. We all play paintball no matter what flavour. Supair, scenario, walkon etc. It doesn't matter.
We all make decisions by interperating the information that we personally see. Sometimes we interperate things in a way slightly different to what actually happens, that's what makes paintball so good.
The day itself was very well planned, the scenario and idea's were excellent. Some of the objectives were slightly closer to the goodies base, but that's simply because that's where they were built years ago (Rorks Drift / Stargate), that's what makes woodland paintball interesting, the fact that sides arn't the same.
The goodies played excellently all day and deserved the win.
There seems to be a couple of common points to this thread,
1) The Toilets. There probably were enough toilets there, but maybe not enough to service 300 people who insisted on drinking 30 cans of lager each the night before.
2) The air. This was out of the organisers hands as it was brought in.
These two points are valid and I am sure are something that is simply rectified for next time.
I am going to close this thread now because I don't think that keeping it open for any longer will be of any benefit to anyone.
Andy
Won't comment on the game seeing as i only spent about 2 hours playing and all these games seem much the same to me anyway.
I wasn't impressed with the 30-40 minute pyro show behind our safe area (anybody who knows me will know how much i like things that go bang). The simple fact that you couldn't hear what someone stood next you was saying was bad, and as for the player trying to locate an air leak on his marker, he had no chance. And yes a round did indeed land in the safe area and manage to hit someone in the groin.
Toilets, can't comment as i didn't use them, though for any event where there's lots of drinking involved and lots of men one or two urinal toilets are really useful as they take a lot of strain of the normal toilets.
Air, i was surprised there was no bottle checks.
Camping, the field and indeed the whole site is on a hill, not everyone is going to find a level bit of ground to pitch their tent, it could do with a rubbish skip in the middle of though.
The thing i will complain about, is players in the safe area's without Barrel socks or bungs in place. This not a dig at tim or lee as they were constantly telling people, it shouldn't be just down to the oragnisers or marshals to make sure this happens,it's every persons responsibility to make sure everyone has one in place. You expect it to be the people who are using the site equipment to forget but i mostly saw players with their own gear walking in without them in place. If you've lost your sock or bung out in the field you leave your gun outside until you've got another or you take it apart (barrel off, hopper off and air bottle off). The argument that i've turned the air off dosn't work.
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