View Full Version : Of all the upgrades available
Of all the upgrades available for the Autococker, which upgrade do you think has made the most difference for you.
father jack
04-03-2003, 19:58
my new race frame, although im having trouble getting it just right, bloody pain in the ass !
You're not trying to fit it yourself are you?
father jack
05-03-2003, 04:45
me and samurai jack are going to have a bash tonight, see if we cant suss the bugger, failing that, im going to have to send it down to the belsey bro's:(
Paintballbudgie
08-03-2003, 11:55
What else, personally have my sights set on an E-Blade, but what else. Am just buying a stock 2002 vert cocker and am looking to do my own project Tabatha.
I need performance, reliability, and above all, its got to look good. :D
nighthawk
09-03-2003, 16:34
just got the autococker 2003 vert feed with the 32 deg 5inch drop forward i have to have the 32 deg on/off adap to screw the co2 bottle on ????? just wont to make sure before getting one
nighthawk
09-03-2003, 17:40
there is nothing on the end of the drop forward to put the bottle on . the bottle has one of them so what do i put on the end of the drop forward so i can screw the bottle on
nighthawk
09-03-2003, 17:40
there is nothing on the end of the drop forward to put the bottle on . the bottle has one of them so what do i put on the end of the drop forward so i can screw the bottle on
nighthawk
09-03-2003, 18:27
allready use the co2 bottles on me t3 so i know the bottles ok but there is nothing to screw the bottle on with the autococker that i have just got off fatbobs
32 degrees do a bottle adapter with the on and off it so all u after do is screw in a pin valve type . fat bob sells these click here (http://www.fatbobspaintball.co.uk/air/32degdropforonoffadapt.htm) to see it:cool:
and this is the drop forward that goes with it click here (http://www.fatbobspaintball.co.uk/air/5dropforward.htm) to see it:)
nighthawk
13-03-2003, 14:04
thanks m8 will get the bit an be able to play cant swop off t3 as some one else uses the t3 now
:D
to upgrade the stock 2002 wgp cocker? what will improve the performance best? hinge trigger? new bolt? cant get them all as i'm on a budget!
fleisher
02-04-2003, 19:26
Work from the inside out m8,as and when you can afford it.
internally what needs to be changed from stock? bolt?
You'll see the greatest difference with an after market barrel! Then an inline reg which is "easily" adjustable like the sidewinder from Alakamp. You won't see much if any difference with a new bolt,it maybe be a bit softer on paint though if you go for a venturi!
probs go for a teardrop, any other suggestions?
If you can afford it go for a second hand boomy! Damn fine barrels.. got one on my 2k3 at the moment! I also have a freak as well though for when the balls don't like the boomy!
its just finding someone who wants to give one up! as new they are a lot of ££££, but i'm gonna make my cocker one sweet marker! so spending £££ is inevitable
What about the Empire Delux barrel kit, now down to £199.99
andy
199.99 aint a bad price for it actually thinking a full freak set costs 160 before you buy all the fronts!
Go for a dye excel then! Good barrels cheap price!
its just a stock upgrade, and being still in school and only on a weekend marshall job, it aint gonna happen!
xcel sounds good!
Its gotta be the E-blade, nothing has done more for this cocker than throwing the e-blade on it did. It looks sweet, it fires at a hellish rate, it still feels like a cocker... and by hell does it feel good :)
Zwitta
Really like the rugged simplicity of the WGP 2003 vet autococker
Nothing to go wrong and thats the way I like it.
Mate this up with a 14" Dye Ultralite barrel (very good) a derlin supercharge bolt (good but I am not sure it is £40 - worth of improvement) and a centreflag 3000 psi air system and you have a tidy, reliable piece of kit.
(the short length of the bottle fits neatly in the crook of my arm and brings the body of the marker to a good hand/eye distance, downside is that you will struggle to get more than 500 shots from a typical "just under 3000 in there for you, mate" fill)
Stick with a standard VL 200 hopper but chop 3/8 inch of the feed tube to lower the profile - not a lot but every little helps
Not too sure about electric triggers and motor loaders. As well as being something of a technophobe, I had a bad experience with the latter - see my thread on "Brittle Revolutions"
Will probably look at a roller sear next. Anyone with any experience of these in a WGP 2003?
Gary E
Dark Warrior
24-04-2003, 18:40
Roller sear is ok as long as you do not plan to add an e-blade to it.
Delrin Bolt, its probably the best bolt you can get and definately an improvement on the stock bolt.
As you learn to use the cocker trigger you will soon find that you will outfire a VL -200, (I could outfire one when I had an inferno) then you will suffer from chopped paint.
Dye Ultralite is a very good barrel, but you need to buy a paint which gives you a good paint-barrel match and stick with that paint.
My opinion roller sear last on your list
Start list
Barrel - dye - fine
Bolt - Delrin - fine
Valve - Belsales Supercharger Valve
Rex Dialer kit - So that you can externally adjust the velocity with just an allen key.
Trigger pull shortened
See how it runs from there
My WGP 2003 eblade (for sale)
excuse pic it's not too brilliant
http://members.lycos.co.uk/yorkshirerams/video/2K3Blade2.jpg
fleisher
24-04-2003, 18:43
Belrin ?,not one of your latest products is it ?:p :D
Dear DW
Thanks for the tips - just one thing - and I am showing my lack of knowledge here - what exactly does the supercharge value do?
Where does it go and are they easily replaced? Whatsmore, what will my marker do better afterwards.
PS - they WGP with e blade looks good - how do they run with an electric trigger. What are you looking to sell it for?
Gary E
Dark Warrior
25-04-2003, 08:14
the supercharger valve help controls the air/co2 flow more efficiently
the valve fits inside the marker above the trigger assembly
Change the valve at the same time as adding the Rex Dialer Kit adjusting trigger saves time and money.A lot of people have commented on how good it performs.
a 14" ultralight. now i need a drop forward, and a bolt, and i will be a happy bunny!
No need for a new bolt! Get a rex adjuster hammer and adjuster kit and that will be a better way to spend 34 or so quid! Oh and a very nice drop is the custom products Razor drop! I got mine from LPS!
nice drop, all chrome yeah? also the stock bolt looks and feels so cheap! what exactly does the rex dialer kit do?
p.s. ive got a 2002 vert feed wgp cocker
It may look and feel cheap but it works fine! The rex dialler kit... the main advantage people use ir for is the ability to adjust the velocity using a small allen key and without having to take out the cocking rod! What most people don't realise is with the kit you get a new hammer/spring combo which means you can crank your LPR right down to virtually eliminate chopping!!
sounds good. yeah that takin out the rod really pi**es me off! i'm quite new to cockers, so arent to sure about adjusting the LPR's cos you have to take the stock ones apart dont ya!
i know how they work basically, but i'm still learning cockers!
also when i got my cocker (2nd hand) the ram is slightly bent inwards and aint exactly straight, and had to sort of bend and adjust the rod, because the kink in it was pointing up'ish, but i t works ok! will find out tomorrow!
probs end up getting a new front kit one day.....
Race Frame with eVLution hopper
Just bolted race frame on set at 12 balls per sec and have now done 3 straight tournies without a chop which is essential in the current game.
some people say 12 is too slow but at the end of the day there are not many people who can shoot faster than that for a whole game and a target normally only presents itself for the first couple of shots so after that you are just blasting a barriade anyway for which a couple of shots a second lets them know you are still there
spend about 200 quid doing up my cocker to basically evo, or get a second hand older vert evo, with blade for an extra 150 quid (after i sell my cocker). hmmmm?
Is it shooting fine now? If not why not? Only change parts that WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE! No point in spending 200 quid on parts that make feck all difference to the performance of the gun just cos they look pretty! Ok so maybe i can't say that as i have a nice E-bladed orracle now but shhhhh... ;)
its not shooting too good!, i think its cos the ram is slightly wonky, so maybe that means i need a new front block, or ram? the other day the back block decided to stay back on a couple of shots, leading to double balls etc.!:rolleyes:
so i kinda want a new one!, you got a spare front block and ram?
cheers
eric
ALSO, im a student doin gcse's with minimul dosh supplies!, and kinda want it to be decent for next m25 i'm supposed to be playning for campaign power.
Easy solution! Send it to Belsales get them to check it out! Only fix parts that need to be fixed after all it is a shop and they will probably try to sell you anything ranging from a new LPR to an E-blade! Thats my 2p worth anyways!
i might even be able to get there, as i'm in guildford, is that near belsales?
Don't know! Just call up and ask... i know if you go they will probably check it for free! I know planet do!
now stuck a hollowpoint and a mkiii blade frame on it, and a drop forward, shooting nicely, it was my slide frame sticking which caused the back block to stay:rolleyes:
well next is a rex, and air.
i might get dangerous brian to take a butchers at an m25 if he will:) just to check it all out.
but ive timed it ok i think, so its shootig nice;)
righto, now thats air on the beauty. slowly but surely;)
Get a Blade frame, the Planet "Rocket" Frame is very good, also a delrin bolt!
then save some money and get it e-bladed!
oooh the speeeeeed!:D
well....i have bought meself a matrix now, only 350 quid- cheaper than doing up my cocker, much cheaper. so the cocker is being sold.
anyone!?
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