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zapp brannigan
22-07-2003, 17:22
does anyone know where i can get a bolt for the diablo sabotage B/L because i want to be a second hand one off my mate, but a vital part of the bolt is missing (it took us ages to figure it out) and now it wont shoot a ball 6inches. any help would be greatly appriciated.
is the bolt the right way up?
The bolt is just a solid piece of aluminium - what is missing?
Tom
zapp brannigan
23-07-2003, 17:04
the bolt is the right way up!
when you look down the barrel and see the bolt you can see a star shaped device or something that looks like a cog, (i cant be more precise cos i dont know the exact name) and that part is totally missing, we don't know what happened, its only ever been used like once!
The star shaped bit - does it go in the face of the bolt? Ie does it sit inside the front hole of the bolt?
Tom
zapp brannigan
23-07-2003, 20:22
yeah thats the bit thats missing. we stripped it down and it was just a empty chamber in the bolt, nothing.
Well, in that case it shouldnt affect the marker. That bit is basically called a Venturi insert - it redirects the one big blast of gas through the bolt into several smaller blasts. The idea is that it evens out the gas ocross all the paintball and thus reduces any spin that might be put on the ball. However, it's not ever been properly proved that a venturi bolt has much effect (if any) so you shouldnt worry about it too much. In any case, losing this bit will not stop the marker working. So if this is the case, then something else is stopping the marker working.
Have the springs been changed, valve assembly been altered, or anything else done with the marker to your knowledge?
Tom
zapp brannigan
24-07-2003, 17:11
i don't know if anything has been changed i'll have to look into it. i'll get back to you on it.
zapp brannigan
28-07-2003, 18:31
well me and me mate have looked at the weapon thoroughly and the bolt doesn't seem to be moving and we don't know why? are there any common problems with bolts not moving and what are their solutions?
well it could be that youve got a bit of shell stuck between the bolt and the body jamming it, which just needs force to free it. or if the pin is missing (goes in top of marker through bolt) holding the bolt in place into the hammer to bolt wont move when shot (assuming sabotages are anything like inferno's). maybe the bolts upside down, so the hole is pointing upwards(but it should still move!)
thats all i can think of.....
zapp brannigan
29-07-2003, 16:52
Originally posted by Eric
well it could be that youve got a bit of shell stuck between the bolt and the body jamming it, which just needs force to free it. or if the pin is missing (goes in top of marker through bolt) holding the bolt in place into the hammer to bolt wont move when shot (assuming sabotages are anything like inferno's). maybe the bolts upside down, so the hole is pointing upwards(but it should still move!)
thats all i can think of.....
it doesn't sem to be any of those,. is there anything else that could be wrong or do you reckon the gun is just ****ed.
Ok, can you physically move the bolt back and forward? If so, can you cock the marker? (Ie pull the bolt so that it locks back)? If so, what happens when you pull the trigger with it cocked?
Give as much detail as possible!
Tom
zapp brannigan
03-08-2003, 13:52
right the bolt now moves. but we are still stuck with the same problem of the gas not feeding properly. we stipped the weapon half a dozen times to see if the parts to see if any of the o-rings were damaged or something wasn't fitted correctly, yet we couldn't find anything.
the gun fires but there isn't enough power to make the ball travel further the 3 inches! we think that there is either a feed problem or the gas is escaping, but we honestly don't know. my mates gonna have a look at one of his friends marker which is also a sabotage and see if there is anything different with his compared to his mates.
if its anything like a spyder, maybe the valve has rotated, so hardly any gas goes through. Take off the grip frame, and maybe there is a brass screw which is loose or fallen out allowing the valve to rotate. this screw holds the valve in place. you may have to carefully remove and put back the valve the correct way up.
this is what happened to my spyder often. you should be able to see through the valve into the chamber if its the correct way up.
Also, though this seems stupid, make sure the velocity adjuster is screwed in and the sping is the correct one. Eg, the spring behind the hammer is stiff enough for the job and is also under enough compression - a good way to tell is how hard is it to cock the bolt back? If its really easy the chances are the spring is too weak.
Tom
zapp brannigan
04-08-2003, 09:22
the velocity adjuster and spring are perfectly fine, the spring is stif enoguh we made sure of that. im gonna have to check with my mate about the valve thingy. but we took the weapon apart almost a dozen times and put it back together as we saw in the instructions, every piece seemd to be accounted for. im gonna have to wait now though, because he has gone on holiday so i wont be able to look at it for a week.
zapp brannigan
13-08-2003, 12:21
we've tried everything we can think of now nothing seems to work, it seems to be a lost cause. we just don't know what to do, we wish we could send it to someone who might be able to repair it, but we don't know anyone who can, do any of you lot know?
I would be happy to look at it but I have no CO2 and can't guarantee I could get it to work!
Someone on here might be able to help you out though!
Tom
zapp brannigan
13-08-2003, 14:47
well if there is neone who wants to take a look and preferably in west sussex or near and want totake a look at it then tell me and i'll let me mate know.
zapp brannigan
14-08-2003, 11:57
does anybody want to me out here. cos i want to buy that sabotage off me mate so i can go paintballing again! please im begging you, i need some help!
If you want to send it to me with a FULL bottle of CO2 then I would be happy to look at it as long as you pay the return postage! I'm in Coventry atm - PM me if you are interested!
Regards,
Tom
zapp brannigan
14-08-2003, 16:57
i had a word with me mate and he hasn't got a spare CO2 bottle. this sunday, however, he's gonna take it to holmbush and get his mate who works there to get someone to take a look at it.
Sounds like one of two things.
1) The bolt is in upside down
2) You have run out of gas.
Andy
the valve has rotated, get back to us and we can see who was correct.:D
come on valve rotation.....
(this can happen in sabotages, right?)
zapp brannigan
22-08-2003, 16:52
he took it to a walk on day and asked a load of pros to take a look at it and they cant sus it out. one bloke there took it home with him to take a look at it so it doesn't look a rotated valve! (we checked that over a dozen times anyway)
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