View Full Version : A-5 v's Autococker
Suiter_killer
23-08-2003, 01:01
ok people be honest here .... we are going on performance not preconceptions about it costs more so its better, or o0000000000oooooooh its got blue and yello spots on it!! just serious comments, my money lies with the a-5 for its reliability, ease of cleaning, incredible rate of fire and pure realistic looks and ruggedness
.................................................. ................. i know landmindscap will dissagree having just wasted money on an autococker... :P
Suiter_killer
23-08-2003, 01:11
just look at it!!!
i got a5 when up against an autococker i had him pinned but he could put more paint down than me.
Samurai Jack
23-08-2003, 10:17
The difference is simple, if you wanna play 'comando' in the woods dressed up in camo then you get yourself an A5. If you want to play tournaments and actually have a chance to compete rather than just getting lit-up you get yourself a propper marker.....
Just remind me again...
How many top Pro Teams use A5's... :D
Suiter_killer
23-08-2003, 11:44
lets just say ... the tippmann team ... goes without saying really and they do well with their e-tippmanns... im quite impressed its not allways about laying down paint its about the players skill and a tippmann with e-trigger will definatly hold its own on an air field .... just the rt is shoddy .....
landmindscap
23-08-2003, 13:12
Right then. This is my Cocker and below is my Zeus Backup
This is for dancing
landmindscap
23-08-2003, 13:13
And this is for Fun
Samurai Jack
23-08-2003, 13:15
If you mean Tippmann Effect they do not play at Pro level below is a link so you can see for yourself...
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tournament/nppl/2003/vegas/final.shtml
As for your comment "its not just about laying down paint"
Well yes it is depending the position you play, if you'd actually played Tourney paintball you'd know that.
Have fun running round the woods while your not chasing sheep :D
landmindscap
23-08-2003, 13:36
For those who are wandering how the new Zeus handles I havent had a field test yet however after getting out of the box I just had to blast some paint so off into the back garden.
Googles on, Installed co2 cartridge and lost all the gas. You have to cock it before installing cartridge. (DOH) Cocked it installed Co2 Cartridge all fine. Load magazine, 10 balls, and clip onto top of marker. Twist magazine retaining bolt to allow balls to fall into breach. Magazine is spring fed so no shaking to get paint in and are available seperately. Let off safety and take aim then bang.
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Bloody Hell. Hole through box target out other side and through wooden panel fence. Lets turn the velocity down before we do any more damage. Just in case you all think im a Psyco I forsaw this possible problem and checked there was no one next door before practice just in case but i'll have to explain the said hole later.
Basically this marker is incredibly accurate. You only need a 10 shot mag if your playing 10 players because you can make each shot count all you need is a target an inch of player and bye bye.
When I use it on a Walk on next weekend i'll let you all know if you need to worry at the Star Wars game.
The Holster you see with it is made specifically for the Zeus markers by Armotech. 2 pockets, one for a spare mag and extension barrel and one for Co2 cartriges and field strip kit. Its quite comfortable if you put the straps in the right place otherwise its cuts off circulation to vital organs.
Only problem I see coming up with this marker is a Co2 Cartridge only lasts for around 30 - 40 shots and its a bit fiddly to change but not a major problem. You can get a bottom line for this marker but why bother it'd defeat the object of being a backup unless you were using a remote line.
As far as I know these markers are not available in the UK. I had to pay £25 on top of the final price of £80 (including holster) for VAT, Import Duty and for some reason £8 of that to Parcelforce who I had to eventually go get it from. But all in all good value.
Suiter_killer
23-08-2003, 13:58
jack you are quite welcome to come to the land of my fathers and be my sheep anytime... you can play in the welsh 3man next year in our air field... should be fun or any time you want to prove ur skills recballing come give us a go ;)
Samurai Jack
23-08-2003, 14:01
Think I'll pass on the sheep bit not really my thing.....
However let me know when the 3 man sup air tourney is on and I'll try get a team in......
Suiter_killer
23-08-2003, 14:03
good man look forward to seeing you there... il get dates later on... landminescap may know
landmindscap
23-08-2003, 15:42
Havent a clue when. As far as I know the fields are still in the planning stage for next year. If Josh doesn't pull his finger out it'll be in Cenarth again.
fleisher
23-08-2003, 16:23
Sod that Jack,I ain't going to Wales for nobody even if its to punter hunter players with A5's:D .
A5s look good ,suiters with the stock especially but its the same argument as the Automag,both fine markers for rec. ,useable for tourneys BUT not if you want to get anywhere, sorry guys but its true. It works both ways as I don't like using my Xmag for woodland rec ball as it too OTT,so I use my Evo X instead.
Thing about `cockers is you can use them at pretty much any level of paintball,and as you progress you can upgrade them out of all recognition .
im sorry but a tippy doesnt have nothing on a cocker and thats not just cause i own one. Tippmans look like real guns for starters and to be fair thats not the image we want. As for rate of fire and accuracy id like to see any thing beat this:
landmindscap
23-08-2003, 22:35
Paintball Porn. Coooooooool
alan phoenix
23-08-2003, 23:04
Originally posted by landmindscap
Paintball Porn. Coooooooool
& this from someone who has a holster that looks like a cross between a jockstrap & a chastity belt.:D
mmmmmmmmshiny:D
Fleisher, x-mag over the top for rec????? its just the thing for hammering a bush full of tippmanists:D :rolleyes: :D
Silverjay
24-08-2003, 10:17
Originally posted by Djmatt
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What a pile of cack - get yourself a decent marker.
I'd rather have a Tippy any day.
:p
landmindscap
24-08-2003, 10:25
& this from someone who has a holster that looks like a cross between a jockstrap & a chastity belt.
Funny thing is when your wearing it, it feels like a jockstrap and cuts off circulation
Here is my pistol got the holster aswell
Suiter_killer
24-08-2003, 13:56
all you cock lovers ... i mean cocker lovers... are just like the sad kids at school who had to get nike air trainers just cos they had air bubbles and cost the most... but performance wise and reliability is what i go for and the tippy got my vote ;)
tippy's r reliable, but Djmatt's marker ses it all............enough sed! :D
Silverjay
24-08-2003, 16:21
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
all you cock lovers ... i mean cocker lovers... are just like the sad kids at school who had to get nike air trainers just cos they had air bubbles and cost the most... but performance wise and reliability is what i go for and the tippy got my vote ;)
It is often said that with the right skills, you can use almost anything and win, however, with the same skills, a well setup cocker would eat up and spit out a well setup tippy without knowing about it - there's just no competition at all.
I personally don't like cockers (even though I own one) and have owned a Tippman (only for a couple of weeks when they were first around so no flaming lads please) but I can still see quality versus a bag of poo when I see and use it.
I'm afraid only a rec baller who doesn't play tourneys would think otherwise. Give me the choice in the woods or SupAir and I'd take a 5 year old cocker against a brand new Tippy any day.
Just my 2p :D .
Suiter_killer
24-08-2003, 19:56
well either way spending money on the better guns wont help much if u cant shoot it... *cough* grant.... whos the one who seems to get everyone using an inferno for god's sake lol .... its just as good in my eyes... and if this argument continues lol next time we play u know i have a fetish for neck shots..... ;)
dude u obviously know nothing about tourny ball. laters
Ever time ive gone up against landmindscap ive beaten him hands down no matter what gun he has, and for god sake i use an inferno so stop talking through ur rear end and get some practice as landminds is not going anywhere ok!
Landminds scout.
Suiter_killer
24-08-2003, 20:28
YAY!! hey craig finally dragged your arse on here then... grant face it we are recballers and ur to old to do tourneys ya tramp... but as a point id love to see djmatt come flash that gun on our site and watch his ass get nailed by recballers
i need to drag my arss down to wales then and play with u guys.? www.scottishwarriors.co.uk
Suiter_killer
24-08-2003, 21:44
feel free, infact you would be more than welcome to .... www.cullapark.co.uk
im sure we could string a few more people into our team to play you guys ;)......... i sense a lot of beer coming up :D
just as a subnote here i just started making this but .... www.angelfire.com/mech/landminds/home.html
landmindscap
25-08-2003, 01:02
Ever time ive gone up against landmindscap ive beaten him hands down no matter what gun he has, and for god sake i use an inferno so stop talking through ur rear end and get some practice as landminds is not going anywhere ok!
Oh what a lovely quote from your own brother. Just a few points last time I played against you and suiter we were all using infernos and I beat you. On 2 seperate days.
Secondly Landminds will be going to the Welsh 3 man open next year with or without you. I intend to train and get some coaching together. We won't come last but were gonna try to come first. (If we do the beers on me)
And thirdly your only on the team because nobody else wants to be.
Now I know we all have bored lives when were not slanging each other off but could we try to seem slightly professional. Thank you. Sorry everyone else had see that.:mad:
Ps if any veteran torney players have any hints tips or want a pet project please e-mail away.
cyberghost@tiscali.co.uk or suiter_killer@hotmail.com
landmindscap
25-08-2003, 01:05
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
well either way spending money on the better guns wont help much if u cant shoot it... *cough* grant.... whos the one who seems to get everyone using an inferno for god's sake lol .... its just as good in my eyes... and if this argument continues lol next time we play u know i have a fetish for neck shots..... ;)
Thats why I wear neck protection even when your on my team. We need to have words about shooting vunerable parts by the way.:eek:
And i'm only 27 is that to old to learn to play torneys. As long as there aren't any stairs involved :D
Silverjay
25-08-2003, 09:18
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
but as a point id love to see djmatt come flash that gun on our site and watch his ass get nailed by recballers
LMAO - we do play with rec ballers ocassionally but it tends to become a bit of a turkey shoot, so we try not to now too much as it tends to lower our tournament game.
Why not get a team into a tournament? Not a local job - a Midland Masters, Series 2K4, M25, SWPL to have a go against some decent teams.
Silverjay
25-08-2003, 09:20
Originally posted by landmindscap
And i'm only 27 is that to old to learn to play torneys.
Absolutely not, 13 to 60 are regularly found at tourneys.
wow scottie, that would be cool, cant really promis a good challenge though as there are only 3 of us and we only been playing for about 6 months now, lol
Ur more than welcome to come down though and we would give you a good game.
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 18:02
Grant mate you know im joking, and about the vulnerable bits ... well... if we always play punters what do you expect me to do i need to have some fun. Oh and i wont shoot you .... again! and craig how's your knee after the last time we went? i promise i wasnt aiming for any vital organs lol.
3 man team tornament eh grant, well with or without me it will be as i now officially quit landminds as ur such a big headed jack bum!
Buh bye
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 20:49
Originally posted by Artwood
3 man team tornament eh grant, well with or without me it will be as i now officially quit landminds as ur such a big headed jack bum!
Buh bye
LMFAO!!! oh this is better than eastenders!! this is some classic stuff.... 'jack bum' lmfao.... oh god i love you two... one's analy retented the others camper than a row of tents .... and as for landminds.... anyone need a player in the wales area lmao? :|
Im still up for a team suiter, im just not playing with someone who thinks spending money on a big gun improves chances of winning over skill and practice, so me and you yeah, me and him, no.
fleisher
25-08-2003, 21:45
When is this Welsh 3 man,as I feel Storm North ought to come down to poon your sorry asses:D
no surrender rule in supair dudes, your all gonna get mugged
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:05
man il play with both of you but im not taking sides.... i will just play for the fact i love paintballing.....
fleisher
25-08-2003, 22:08
Originally posted by Artwood
Im still up for a team suiter, im just not playing with someone who thinks spending money on a big gun improves chances of winning over skill and practice, so me and you yeah, me and him, no.
Good point m8,but what you gonna do when you come up against guys with big guns AND mad skills ?...buy brown trousers ?:D
Samurai Jack
25-08-2003, 22:13
Originally posted by Djmatt
no surrender rule in supair dudes, your all gonna get mugged
That is if they make it past the break:D
robtattoo
25-08-2003, 22:16
Whadda ya mean "if"? :D
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:25
you guys are funny, you should have you'r own show..... 'my heads so big i fall over a lot!' itl be a great hit.... what makes u think ur so good? you havent even seen us .... maen pawb yn cont!
fleisher
25-08-2003, 22:33
Yawn !,let me see now erm... your crap markers and my 17 years tourney experience are 2 things that spring to mind,and the fact that I was playing woodland when you were still cacking your nappys...LAST YEAR !:D :D :p
Oh and if your gonna insult us ,use English not that inbred babble you pass off as a language .
robtattoo
25-08-2003, 22:34
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
you guys are funny, you should have you'r own show..... 'my heads so big i fall over a lot!' itl be a great hit.... what makes u think ur so good? you havent even seen us .... maen pawb yn cont!
We don't think it. It's just a fact (Oh & between the 3 of us, about 35 years p.ball play!:D ) & stop swearing at us in that heathen lingo (joke):D
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:34
anyway less of the ego trip... back to the original topic... and as for modding the gun .... whats stopping you modding an A-5....
robtattoo
25-08-2003, 22:36
Taste & sense for two.
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:37
so .. ur old.... move over lol jk mate ;)
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:39
where's bod when i need him lol!!!
robtattoo
25-08-2003, 22:47
Keeping his head down, cos he know's that we're right !!!
Impys---good
Timmys---good
Trixys---good
Cockers---good
Mags---good
A5s---piss poor excuses for "can't-get-in-the-army-but-I've-seen-rambo-like-forty-times-man" sheep shaggers, who were probably born with 13 toes, a full head of hair & teeth.
Keeping my mouth shut as i got tottaly lost on this thread 2 pages back, also my fingers have been stuck together with superglue, my new 400 ball hoppers nearly finnished, the 640 ball hopper was to big and heavy.
Is'nt there some tourneys where you're only allowed a hopper full of paint:D :D :D :D
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 22:52
Originally posted by robtattoo
Keeping his head down, cos he know's that we're right !!!
Impys---good
Timmys---good
Trixys---good
Cockers---good
Mags---good
A5s---piss poor excuses for "can't-get-in-the-army-but-I've-seen-rambo-like-forty-times-man" sheep shaggers, who were probably born with 13 toes, a full head of hair & teeth.
My god you'r so childish, and you say you'r older than me? it was a topic asking a question .... and somehow you manage to alienate the welsh ... thats mature. does mummy still comb you'r ass hair too?
p.s bod u got pic's of that hopper?
Samurai Jack
25-08-2003, 22:56
Right before this thread degenerates any more enough is enough all of you behave or i'll put my mod hat on........
wtf is that picture?? jesus and i aint got an ego at all, just dont go slaggin off things till u try it
I've tried sup air and didn't like it much, give me the woods anytime:D :D
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:00
hey mate im not putting the cocker down.... im just not picking it up! i feel the tippmann has the ability to compete.... ok lets hear a technical definition why the a-5 cant compete with the right usage....
but do u not agree that for the sport to progress it has to be done on the supair field?
killer man, have u actually fired a E Blade?
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:04
thats a good point but it was created for the i have seen rambo types ... and it was meant originally to be played in the woods and i do get a better kick out of rec balling.... but im not putting down air ball.... not tried it to many times ya know!
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:07
briefly ... i cant say the expensive shiny thing did it for me although i had a good perv over a black angel.... liked that much to much.... but i mean i hit that guy in the neck with an inferno.... its just about using the weapon... i know you feel touchy about the subject but its common opinion... lol granted by ppl who own tippmanns lol
yes i agree it is the way u use a marker, but its not always the case. If two people of equal skill play one with say a inferno and one with a angel/ e cocker whos gonna win?
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:12
can the guy with the inferno rapid fire... (rattle his finger) lol i find that works quite well laying down paint with an inferno... i see ur point but im not using an inferno .... e grip a-5... slightly better odds
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
ok people be honest here .... we are going on performance not preconceptions about it costs more so its better, or o0000000000oooooooh its got blue and yello spots on it!! just serious comments, my money lies with the a-5 for its reliability, ease of cleaning, incredible rate of fire and pure realistic looks and ruggedness
.................................................. ................. i know landmindscap will dissagree having just wasted money on an autococker... :P
I don't know much about auto cockers but i do know about the a5, and i know it's not that easy to clean it takes about 10 minutes if you need to clean the power tube and front bolt.
But for a price of £245 plus another£150 for a flatline and E-grip you can put together a pretty decent gun/marker.
I've played around with my E-grip and it's now got a trigger pull of 1-2mm i don't know how that compares to an E-blade but i recon i can put out enough balls per second:p :p :p
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:23
well my kit so far cost me 220 cos i got it off an ebay shop in usa.... but the e grip cost .... i dont remember wasnt that much... and ul have to show me how to tinker bod lol
I'll send you a pm with deatails tommorow as i'm off to bed now:o :o
landmindscap
25-08-2003, 23:29
You know the whole thing that started this off was that I was feeling a bit let down by the fact that when I was playing with inferno's and the E-rex both on Co2 as it happens I would be getting strange things happening to the balls just when I was gonna snipe someone. ie taking off at 90o angles to the barrel. Now me having more money than sense or a credit card that hasn't quite reached its limit yet bought the Eclipse Cocker off paintball budgie for £400. Its shiny, it makes people go ooooh and HOW MUCH!!!! but as yet I haven't actually fired it. I'll let you all know how I get along on SUnday.
As for my skills.............I don't have any but from years of actual shooting I think i'm getting better. Thats why I've gone for a cocker. Accuarcy? and thats it. I will get better and the only way to do that is to play more against harder opponents and get any advice I can. So Storm lads any idea about what drills we should be doing next Sunday.
Suiter_killer
25-08-2003, 23:34
Originally posted by landmindscap
Now me having more money than sense or a credit card that hasn't quite reached its limit yet bought the Eclipse Cocker 'climax!' off paintball budgie for £400. 'climax!' Its shiny, it makes people go ooooh 'climax?' and HOW MUCH!!!! 'climax' but as yet I haven't actually fired it. 'ANTICLIMAX!' I'll let you all know how I get along on SUnday.
lol cheers bod im off to i think
alan phoenix
26-08-2003, 14:58
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
anyway less of the ego trip... back to the original topic... and as for modding the gun .... whats stopping you modding an A-5....
saw the picture under the above quote. thought to myself."is it ?"
"no it cant be??." "it might be though ?"" "it looks like him??"
"it is ,it really really is him" "yes it is, its Daffyd Bin Laden.:D
alan phoenix
26-08-2003, 15:05
but then again i could be completlely wrong.?:rolleyes: & its
Taffy Arafat.:D :D .
robtattoo
26-08-2003, 17:11
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Suiter_killer
[B]My god you'r so childish, and you say you'r older than me? it was a topic asking a question .... and somehow you manage to alienate the welsh ... thats mature. does mummy still comb you'r ass hair too?
Heh. And you say I'm childish. The table above, answered your question comprehensively, honestly & succinctly. A good cocker, in experienced hands will always out-shoot an A5. It's back to what Jack said earlier, how many teams do you know of that use Tippys in tournament? If they were that good, we wouldn't go out & spend hundreds, sometimes thousands, on tourney grade equiptment, would we? Just a quick analogy, If Michael Schumaker
got into a sierra, would it then be just as quick as his F1 Ferrarri ?
No. Sometimes skill will help when top equiptment isn't available,
but when you get right down to it an A5 with the standard RT trigger is ABSOLUTELY flat out at 15 bps (if you could ever pull it that quickly) whereas an E-Bladed cocker will sit comfortably at 20 & is actually CAPPED at 24 (!) If you'd ever played on sup-air, you'd know that volume is probably MORE important than single-shot accurracy. One ball in the right place WILL cap a player, but it's often more important just to keep him from getting out from behind his bunker & 3 or 4 shots every now & then will give him enough time to make a move, where a pot-full every 4 or 5 seconds & he's going nowhere, giving you front players time to go round & mug him.
Hope this settles the name calling for a while. :D
p.s. I'm 29.
I'm on Robs side. He's bigger than me :D
Suiter_killer
26-08-2003, 19:57
lmao ..... i swear i met dafydd bin laden once... and as for volume out of interest whats the rate of fire on your cockers?
with a halo they simply mow, jack wood has had his at over 40 cps
Suiter_killer
26-08-2003, 20:31
thats pretty good.... the a-5 e- grip does quite well me mate dave... no joke his name is dave... has an rt one that fires about 17/19 depending on how well set up the rt is and the e-grip does much more.... i havn't had a chance to see mine yet.... and play about. i dont know maybe bod can say what his does... but im going to give ya a lil review of the a-5 as i don't know jack codi baw about cockers....
Positive...
- Weight. The weight of the A-5 is quite light. It's not like a feather, but it isn't like carying a boulder. Gives it an overall good balance.
- Firepower. Stock is nice. 2 1/2 pound trigger pull, for a mechanical marker this is nothing. It's light and short. Easy to get a good string of paint. And for upgrades the RT system or E-grip fit right into place and will have you slinging so much paint that you're going to have to invest in a nice harness.
- Field strip ability. With only 4 push pins you can completely disassemble and reassemble the A-5 in just 60 seconds. And that's without practice, Don't be fooled by 'cocker owners saying "I can field strip my bolt with one push pin in 2 seconds" or Spyder owners "I can also field strip mine in less then 60 seconds." Because only the A-5 can field strip EVERYTHING. Hammer, bolt, AND valve. Good luck getting an autococker valve out, you have to buy a special tool!
- Cyclone. The cyclone and A-5 is the fastest force feed system on the market. Period. 17bps people have been getting with their RT systems on the A-5. And unlike some other force feed hoppers, the A-5 is more consistent and it doesn't crush paint or push it past the ball detents leading to chops. Not only that, but this is at least 2-inches shorter than other hoppers on the market (even shorter than some like eVLution).
- Price. It dominates in the price range. For 200-300 price range nothing even comes close. There is not a marker out there that can fire as fast, as consistent, field strip as quick, built even close to as reliable / durable, and come STOCK with a force-feed hopper system. There is no comparison.
The negative side of things...
- Plastic. Grip frame and hopper are made of plastic. I may not mind (no problems yet) it being plastic personally, but there are some people who would. So for them they might shy away.
- Grip frame. People are obsessed with aftermarket grips (DYE Stickies). And since they can't put any on, they're upset. Afterall, those DYE stickies really do make it so you can grip a marker SO much better! (note: sarcasm)
- Hopper. Bad design idea, Tippmann admitted. A flat surface right on the face of the hopper. Although I made the best of it by putting a "bullseye" sticker on the front! Quite fitting I thought.
just 1 thing, I never need to "field strip" my cocker caus it NEVER chops breaks or goes down. dude get hold of an e blade, shoot it, then come back to me.
and a halo will outstrip a cyclone any day
and yes maybe for the price they are good value but saying they are better than a top line cocker is just ignorant. Its like comparing a vauxhall nova to a ferrari
Suiter_killer
26-08-2003, 20:46
don't even get me started on the nova!!! lmao that wasnt what i was intendin gon doing in the first place man, this was just because of landmindscap's missplaced theory that hes a better player now he has the cocker ... truth being he wont be able to walk in a straight line soon when my a-5 e-grip mows his family pets ;) its all about the soft kills!!! lmao i love the look of the cockers ... they are bow down and pray to your master looking fair play Given, Angels, Intimidaters cockers and the like are an over all better gun, they should be for the hefty price tag hike. But they won't take nearly the beating these will and keep pumping out the kills. I know a few people that use the A-5 for speed ball... and it seems to suit them fine... i guess its just about playing the damn game dude not being the one with the biggest and best... but respect where respect is due your gun rocks
I have no idea how many bps i can get it dosn't come with a little gadget to tell you and short of putting it on fully auto and timing how long it takes to empty a 200 shot hopper i guess i'll never know how many balls per second it'll fire:p :p :p
fleisher
26-08-2003, 22:03
Originally posted by Djmatt
just 1 thing, I never need to "field strip" my cocker caus it NEVER chops breaks or goes down. dude get hold of an e blade, shoot it, then come back to me.
and a halo will outstrip a cyclone any day
And a Warp will do `em both :D
landmindscap
27-08-2003, 08:41
Originally posted by Suiter_killer
don't even get me started on the nova!!! lmao that wasnt what i was intendin gon doing in the first place man, this was just because of landmindscap's missplaced theory that hes a better player now he has the cocker ...
I never said it'd make me a better player. I just said I wanted one, got one and now i'm gonna shoot one. It may be the start of getting better as I should now be able to shoot straight all the time with out having to stop every 2 minutes to squeegee or clean broken paint from the breach. Plus I only need upgrade to an e-blade setup when my trigger fingers get faster than the ROF of this eclipse cocker.
Until then you can be safe in the knowledge that I've used an electro, e-rex, but on Co2 its too inconsistent. Maybe air will be better. In short im just want stuff that doesn't go coockoo when you've been hiding in a patch of nettles for 20 minutes and 8 of the opposing team walk past only for you to jump up, try and lob a load of paint at them and you get a breakage after the first 3 balls.
Silverjay
27-08-2003, 08:47
Originally posted by landmindscap
IMaybe air will be better.
You got that right!
And your note about reliability is probably where the main difference is between the two markers in question.
landmindscap
27-08-2003, 23:02
Just out of curiosity and hijacking Suiters thread here what do you find is the quietest marker to use. I was at a walk on 2 months ago and one of the guys had an Angel. I couldn't belive how quiet it was next to everything else there.
Suiter_killer
27-08-2003, 23:58
The angel 4 is based on the angel speed just got some extra features and a look all of its own and that has to be the quietest i have 'not' heard yet.... and you cant say that the tippmann isnt reliable.... im going to run it off air soon aswell .... with my remote hose.
Hmm, the angel really isnt that quiet - listen to a shocker or a matrix.
Tom
ive fired a a4 and the trix is alot quiter, just spits
Suiter_killer
31-08-2003, 19:18
the e-rex played up today so i was walking in the middle of the field being shot at calmly picking out ppl with landmindscap's zeus.... after the ten shots i was handed an a-5 by the site manager.... all i can say is :D carnage
landmindscap
01-09-2003, 21:47
by the way in case anyone was wondering the cocker rocks 600 odd balls not a break but I couldnt use air so i was stuck with co2 which played up a bit. Damn fine piece of kit. Favorite quote of the day "THERE'S A GUY UP ON YOUR RIGHT AND HE'S BLOODY ACCURATE!!!!!!!!"
Suiter_killer
01-09-2003, 21:51
lol my fav quote has to be... "who has orange paint and a gun that fires fu**ing fast" lol :D ah poor bugger i know mask shots are bad but it was all i could get of him and 3 others on his team they were bunkerd lol.... moral being never look over the top lol
mike77_7
12-09-2003, 20:07
problem with any of these guns is the hoppers are not big enough to fill the gun as they fire as fast as you can fill them so whats the point of the debate surely the debate should be about how fast can you fill your gun not what fires fastest as it depends on who is firing the gun not really what gun is but i am A5 friendly and mine is still as stock no upgrade and i can shoot far faster than i can fill the thing the A5 needs a belt feed or something. or a 5000 hopper but then it gets heavy but i like the look of the 400 but not sure if that too might be a bit distracting on top of the gun and it would start to hampper your game play but would work for fixed placements at paintball sites.
landmindscap
19-09-2003, 23:00
I think you need that Thunder buggy thing tippman have for shows. Isn't it a 5000 hopper for the 6 barrel cannon on the front of it?
I feel I have to comment on this topic. I own an A5 and it is the dogs in woodland, but and I am sorry A5 owners the cockers are better in a tournament game. Although I feel having used lots of people markers an Angel is the best marker around.
In my view woodland and urban games are the best because people can hide better snipe if they wana be dull and its just more fun. Tournaments are just killing fields most of the time and they’re over to quick.
The best way to have a fair tournament is for everyone to use the same marker then you see who are the better players.
Originally posted by JiMM7
Although I feel having used lots of people markers an Angel is the best marker around.
LOL! Is that a joke! Ha ha!
Suiter_killer
23-01-2004, 10:48
lmfao!! angels.... thats the joke in itself :) my a-5 rocks in woods and my orracle in tourney so i can say i have the best of both worlds
Suiter_killer
24-01-2004, 15:48
rob............................................. yeah lol there she is
Suiter_killer
25-01-2004, 09:53
where hes concerned i wouldnt be surprised if "gogging" was something related to people from north wales..... but what it is.... im not to sure!:rolleyes:
Gogging someone means shooting them in the goggles - preferably right in the middle of the lens.
Suiter_killer
25-01-2004, 13:48
yeah thats only funny if u use "spank" paint lmao ;)
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